I am new also, just did my first race weekend 1, and 1/2 weeks ago at PSGKA. @DavinRS has been great to have around (especially on your first race weekend).
Thanks for the heads up, are both races Tacoma and CIMA are basically on same schedule, I could go to time Trails on Saturday at CIMA and go to the race in Tacoma on Sunday, or did I miss something? Scout©:orthodox_cross:
Club race for SIMA is on Saturday.
PSGKA is on Sunday.
Are the charges for observing the pit area around $15.00 per person or is it open to the public? Thanks DavinRS:facepunch:t4: Oh Thanks for the letters on training, etc., It was very insightful
Normally pit access requires a wristband and thus the 15 bucks. I think it’s mostly to keep folks out of the pit lane where they might get their toes run over.
What are they known by name or is 206 the proper name, sorry if that sounds dumb but I do not know? I am just checking out as much YouTube data on Karting that I can get. I am planning on working myself into shape with my Son who desires to do the same thing as I, we have a 11 year old, 14 year old granddaughter, 17 year old grandson, my 23 year old son, my wife wants to just have fun during the free track practice time and Myself.
Our idea is to join the Tacoma club pay the annual fees for practice track time. I plan on continuing to work conditioning, I was going to learn the Shifter over time not on the track with competent other drivers until I am competent and competitive. The problem I see is training, I will put in the training time, gym time and expand my knowledge knowledge. It will take me a year to get to where I need to be and in the mean time I was going to train. But the other problem is picking up bad driving habits during training on my own. Everyone has their own issues to contend with without spoon feeding me. So, I will learn the old fashioned way, by making mistakes.
I am in it for fun and I do not do anything half A_ _. Plus, I do not want to be the “That Driver” everyone hates to see coming. I have had nothing but great experiences thus far with very friendly, colorful drivers, people are kind and open AND Busy, therefore, when I start racing, I will have my stuff together. There is only one way to learn certain things and that’s by actually racing not just by praticing/training alone. I wish to thank everyone for their comments and I am diffinantly am taking the advice very seriously, for I do not want to hurt myself or others by thinking I am something that I am not.
I do have a deep yearning become very good and competent or I will not get into races just have fun practicing, sooner or later I will pickup the neauances involved. Thanks for the comments, good advice and your experiences shared is appreciated. Scout:spades:
Once you get going it becomes a lot less baffling!
Also, once you get to the track on Sunday, I’ll introduce you to Doug Huggler, who runs Huggler Racing, and the pits I race out of.
He can also help you getting started.
On the conditioning bit, you don’t need big muscles or anything like that. What you will need is aerobic conditioning. That’s where karting gets you.
The way I like to think of it is, “Can I run/swim/bike for 15min at 85-90% of my max with the ability to draw 100% in bursts?”
Muscles are useful too, but the sport will build them for you. Problem is, if you are like me, you get to kart one weekend a month. So, to keep my gains from race weekends I also work in a bit of light weight/resistance training 3 days a week. Pushups, sit-ups and a few exercises with 15lb dumbbells. Maybe 20 mins total. Then 15 mins treadmill walking. That’s it.
I can go about 20mins full chuff now. Which is enough for any race.
Edit: there’s a lot of walking and lifting involved in karting too. Be sure to bring a foldable chair or two so you don’t have to be on your feet all day long. Pretty much anyone who does this on their own also has a pop up awning thing for shade. Hydration and shade are critical when you are participating in a race weekend.
@Dom Thanks for the info on exercising. I have a ways to go and this is where I am really at. I have family who wants to get involved and I love the sport, so why not. I am way over weight to be competitive and I know this. I also am out of shape to the point I will have to work on many aspects.
I am a Mental Health Therapist and was assaulted physically by an inmate with a shank in both hands, threatening to kill. I really injured L-1 through L-5 have been damaged badly. So, I have another issue to overcome. I know I have the fortitude to do what is needed to be done if I am effectively motivated and I have that.
I have a burning inside to get competent and then let Err rip! I do not expect to race for a year or more and while I am physically doing my thing, I can gain track practice time and work on pointers other drivers can give me. I am determined on chasing you guys down and just maybe one day give you guys a good race, @Bimodal_Rocket, @DavinRS.
Interesting. A guy I worked with had the same issue. He was a prison guard and an inmate tried to strangle him to death. He, however, got sued by the inmate because he (the guard) had the gall to defend himself and came out of this with the upper hand. Ugh. Sorry for your troubles and I wish you a speedy recovery.
Sounds like you are motivated in all the right ways and will undoubtedly make quick work of getting up to speed while having fun doing it.
Thanks Dom, it is a life time issue, I am use to the pain and aware of how taxing the Kart racing experience can be. Thusly, the year preparing my body for this and this is a major incentive, motivator for me, everyone needs motivation in some form or another and mine is this.
Can some one help me out, for I am and my family are newbies to Kart Racing, we know very little about class and engine structure for my area the greater Seattle area. I understabd that miss takes I make will be amplified exponentially; therefore, making it an imparative to be on point.
The discussion here speaks to engine sizes, types, ext., That each area presents. What are some paramiteres I must be in compliance to race road races and maybe Sprint down range. I have the following ages involved, 23 year old Son, Joshua, 17 year old Grandson, Xavier, 14 year old Granddaughter Lailah, 11 year old family, Jonas, will be doing competitive racing. My Wife
Constance, and myself will be running practice track time for fun and after I am in shape to compete I will. Three generations of one family entering Kart racing to compete competent ly requires more knowledge then I have. I really need the knowledge of types of engines,
We need to be focusing on and how much modifications can you make. I am concerned about financing a family adventure like this, however, anything you put your life on the line for, must be taken seriously and use only quality top performance parts and equipment that has the best safety features out their, i.e., proper racing gear, helmits, suits, gloves, etc.
Now the costs starts to increase big time. So, I can not afford to make mistakes because I am taking Karting very serious and will not let my family on the track with less then the best out there. I owe that to them because it just may be, because we used high quality products we have midigated injuries greatly?
Sorry this is so long, I just needed you to have a better understanding of my situation to formulate a more percise plan? Thanks and Good luck to all of you this weekend of racing and a special Shout Out to DavinRS and AaronS.,
Charles I think you might be going into too much detail ahead of time.
Pick a class based on the Briggs 206. It’s simple, easy to run, low maintenance and allows you to focus on getting laps in.
The 206 is a sealed OHV four stroke engine. Essentially no modifications are permitted.
It was originally called LO206, (local Option) and that name lasted for probably 6/7 years.
People mistakenly still call it LO206. All that changed was the name though.
You can explore topics about the 206 by clicking this tag: #briggs206
Seriously, forget every other engine for now.
Get a 206 and start enjoying time on the track.
Well, I’m at SIMA today. Anyone else around? Look for the scruffy dude wearing a Mariners cap.
Thank You for the input,I will keep your opinion in mind… ; }
I’d also highly reccomend @Eric_Gunderson’s book “Karting 101”. It will save you time and money:
Bryan, thank you for your review from your experience. I have been formulating what will work for me because of a great many variables, all resolvable but I do not want to learn at my wallets expense. If I reck something then it’s on me but if I purchase an expensive piece of equipment that may not be allowed on the track bothers me greatly fir you have extremely limited resources.
I really am in love with the Vortec Egine made in Italy and I asked and awaiting someone to answer a real big question for me for I can not locate anything that tells me what I can or can not do, use, build, etc., to build a Kart you are willing to give it seat time and learn how to drive a Kart you really want. I am willing to allow seat time on practice tracks, using a very good simulator and go to meets near us and watch, listen and learn as much as I can. That’s good for me and I need to really give that deeper thoughts when getting Karts for the remainder of my family team we are trying to build.
I have mind boggling concerns about equipping, dressing, training so many in a very short order and not break the bank. I am willing to upsorbe initial heavy costs involved and I need it to level down and allow me to understand the costs based upon series of races, ages of Racers, style of racing, etc., has a lot of initial outputs.
The great thing in DavinRS is trying to get a resource page of sorts that will assist me greatly once it gets off the ground. The blog administrators here are really on top of those and many more important issues that needs addressing , to build, promote, and make it easier for someone like me to get involved. For, I am looking at the output vs the available resources that will support our plans rather then me figuring out the multitudes of data needed to do what I wish to do. So, I decided not to let things bother me and I am going to just get one Kart at a time and when we get our third type of Kart we can honestly see how to progress, get back to having fun or else it is not worth the crazieness?
If anyone has the low down on Vortec I would love to hear about stuff that is not public marketing strategies to get you to buy their crap. I really want the real low down and BROTHER THATS WHEN YOUR KART MEETING ONCE A MONTH WOULD BE GREAT. I WOULD EVEN ATTEND IN OTHER NEIGBORING STATES, OREGON, IDAHO, . It would be worth it to make good contacts and build your address book with like minded folks that may be doing things on their own that they would hire their expertise out and you could save money that way. So I hope some positive movement about monthly or even bi-monthly meets and move them around? Thanks and may your sails be full on a calm day. Scout©.
I’m not sure what you mean by real low down as it pertains specifically to the VLR.
But I can say in general, compared to a 206, the 100cc TaG karts (VLR, KA100, X125AC) as they are called are certainly faster, but you’re going to be spending more money and more time keeping things in running condition.
Generally, comparing a Briggs 206 with a 100cc TaG:
Chain and tire wear will be increased.
You’ll need racing fuel and racing oil, vs pump gas in the 206.
You’ll also use twice as much fuel, if not more.
You’ll have less tracks to choose from to race it (for the moment anyway)
Engine maintenance costs will be a little over double, perhaps more depending on how many laps you end up turning.
You’ll have to understand jetting/carburation in a little more detail.
I understand the some of the cost break down:
- Chains, are not too expensive, tires you need a new set for race day, older tires ok for seat time pratices, but will require a new set for the race. You may get away with two races on a new set of tires but that’s about it and to be competitive I believe this is true for the TAG’s, 206’s as well?
- Gas at the track is approximate but our area costs are $60.00 dollars per 5 gallons of gas and for Race day alone you will need three five gallon containers, $180.00. + practice.
- I am not a racer yet so I do not know why racing a Vortec gives you less places to race? If you are running a TAG in the race I could not be in the race because of_ __? Why is it more limited using that engine, I understand the extra maintenance.
- The TAG engine to be competitive, I been told, .I do not know for I am not a racer, that you rebuild the top half twice and the bottom once a season, if I am correct, this is the same recommendations for Vortec. Is it made in the USA has any impact in folks opinion on quality, performance, etc. Vortec from what I can see has a competitive engine and the down low means, I know Vortec will tell you anything for a sale. I was referring to a review on performance by Racers who drive the Karts. They can tell me if it is quick as advertised, how is it side by side with other brands, that’s the “low down”. When my son started his build, I told him to keep one thing in mind, horsepower equates to speed, which equates to money . The faster you want something the more you will pay, that’s common. My question is, does the Vortec out perform other engines and if so how much faster are they? I can not get that level of honestly from a manufacturer?
Thanks for your inputs, It made it things to think about. My feelings is, if I am after the podium then you have to have a Kart that is just as fast or better yet faster and setup better. For me It is a very costly sport and they mixed in several levels of intentions in the same race? Why does that happen, then the other intention drivers can compete and have funds and as their skills and finances increase they can move up to more competitive types of races. Let those that want to turn lapels and newbies run together and the novas lets have fun but I am putting in my best efforts to win.