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Learning a new track in a race is something I’d avoid as much as possible, increases your probability of having a bad day/ruining someone else’s day quite a bit.

That crash was definitely not your fault though. Castorol car jumped with nowhere to go.

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ya i already registered so i thought id give it a shot and in practice had midfield pace and just decided to do the race and see what happens. and i had a good start and was drafting with my teammate (number 4) then we went into the pits and right when we were about to ender we were told pits were closed and we had to revers out to avoid a penalty so started last causing me to be involved in a chaotic start

Nice start! I loved how you were immediately making spots but not crazy. Also, the floating/flying cars make it hard to guess where they are gonna be. I see this sometimes too when playing against folks that are far away.

Watching the rest.

Hey, it’s Barber! I have driven here IRL for the porsche school. The blind crest is quite nerve-wracking. I was amazed seeing the Indy cars do this track, the other day.

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thank you barbers currently one of my favorite tracks to race at in iracing the elevation is great its decent for passing and its satisfying to hit the kerbs in the esses

me and my teammate also lost a few positions at 18:43

My goodness, those flying cars in the first video may want a little less lift :joy:

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That was a pretty long race compared to what I run. Are races where you have to pit common?

Race looks good, especially since you are new to the track.

I don’t know if you can feel it in sim, but after you go over the blind crest, there’s a turn complex that swoops down a bit before rising back up into the final right/left.

Irl the car compresses as you go through here. It is very odd feeling, the weight of the car wanting to keep going downwards.

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not really it was my first league race to so i was not prepared for a 40 minute race but the rest of the season will have 2 twenty minute sprint races with reverse grid

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I did a race at spa in radical and it was longer than the USF races. Sorta took me by surprise. One gets used to focusing for X amount of time. I had to mentally refocus since my brain was checking out at around 15mins.

I enjoyed the AMP league race. It’s cool that your karting seties has a sim series for fun as well. It feels very official with all the announcers and graphics. Are the other competitors mostly AMP karters? Do they also do car stuff there?

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only 4 drivers including me race karts. the rest race cars on the main track a few of the drivers on the grid race miatas all around the us

That’s neat. I did not realize amp has a car track too. I should get out of the house more.I just noticed that Adam Rylance seems to run a similar thing (sim series) for Ovrp. It just ended but maybe next year.

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A Provocative Idea (apparently):

If you are ahead of someone who is faster than you in a race, do not fight them. Instead, let them by and let them do the job of making a hole for you to follow, as best you can, since you are a bit slower.

Why the heck, instead, do we try really hard to not let the faster guy through, and then let the front pack get further ahead?

Work with me. Let’s go for the folks up front.

onboard from round 2 i had decent pace got involved in a shunt on the first lap and faught my way up had a fun battle around 12 minutes in then a yellow got the pack together went from 18 to 4th then took myself out in a really dum move

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Road Atlanta is a great track!

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Fun race so far. You’ve been patient so far with yellow stripe guy.

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he was very fast in practice and got caught up in bad luck in qali so i decided to draft him and pass ppl together

Your wisdom exceeds your years. :grinning:

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This week we are at Brands Hatch, the Indy layout. It’s short, fast and makes for fun races.

I haven’t been able to race or practice that much, so I am decidedly behind the curve. After a couple bad races, I was able to get reasonably up to pace and managed a 5th.

It was interesting, watching the VRS alien show us the way. I never realized how much track you can (and should) use at BH.

For example, t1 is such that ideally, you will almost be in the sand on a strong exit, the kerbing acting like railroad tracks, straightening you out as you complete the turn. All the little weird concrete gratings with grass peeking through are fair game, and they all allow you to get better lines into next corner. You see theses gratings at exit of 2 on left, entry to 3, and outside of 4.

Since my pace sucks, I am letting the fast guys past and just trying to run OK laps and not be dumb. I am now a points troll, hiding under my bridge, nabbing unwary travelers. Or, that’s the general idea.

I’d like to see if I can use my brain to get my irs up to 2K. In usf2000 we only really ever have 2 splits. In the top split, I have to be on it and thoughtful. Unlike bottom split, there isn’t as much room for error, there’s always someone ready to grab your spot. I have had a roller coaster IRS, seeing my IRS rise and then destroying it with impatience and stupidity.

My immediate goal is to achieve 2K IRS. I should be able to do this. I think, what I need to do, is race to my level and stop trying to win. Effectively, I am one of the mid pack f1 teams, lol. I need to understand my current place in things and optimize around that. Look for achievable results that can carry me forwards without taking the big risks that can dramatically change your position.

When I watch Ryan Norberg’s race breakdown videos, he has a perspective that I’d like to absorb. While he’s obviously trying to win, he seems to take stock of where he is relative to field and has a realistic assessment of possibilities. How he talks us through a race shows how patient and strategic his overall race is. It’s not just, go fast, win. It’s quite a bit more subtle. It’s like there are stages and he knows what to expect, when to hold back, when to push.

On another note, I really liked paves oval short tracks. I find this conflicting. It’s a different thing, but one that I seem to have more of a knack for than road. I love it.

What say you?

Should I race Oval?
  • Nah. Take USF2000 to it’s end and see where you stand after a full season.
  • Heck yah. Go for it and don’t look back.
  • Do both. (Less races per category, possibly longer progression).

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Are you sure you want to have a goal (like 2K IRS) riding on something over which you have very little control (aka, the deaf, dumb, and blind Senna/Max wannabes)?

I look at iRacing as two things:

  • Training-which I have full control of, and responsibility for.
  • And ‘racing’, where I test my luck, the validity of my menial approach to races & race craft, and most importantly, how well I am able to execute the performance level I’ve achieved during ‘training’ while immersed in the intensity of racing.

I would encourage at least setting a concurrent performance goal, such as x 10ths off of the IRS alien, and focus on that goal during the first part of the racing week… the old “spend more time sharpening your ax than swinging it”. When you do race, you’ll have a higher performance level, along with higher confidence and repeatability at that level. I know that whenever I race with a dull ax, the tree wins :grin:

Regarding ovals, on the surface they look boring and repetitive, but there is a subtle beauty to the level of sensitivity, precision, and consistency required to run competitively. There are nuances like:

  • Resisting the urge to carry too much speed into turns, or get back on the gas too soon
  • Discovering where/how you introduce the front tires into the banking to build cornering loads in a way that will help the car rotate where you need it to
  • The subtle use of dragged brakes at turn-in, again to aid with rotation, which can be different at each end of the track even though the corners are “the same”.
  • Feeling the energy build so you can predict where/how the car will rotate, an timing the application of throttle to help finish the rotation and begin the exit phase of the turn. (This ‘gas up’ point often feels “too early”, but if everything before is done right, the car is dancing… ready to pivot; however, if the car is not balanced on the edge, applying gas at the same point will just induce a massive push.)
  • Staying tuned into any deviations from the plan, and identifying them ASAP (for example rotation loads building too fast or slow). Things happen fast on the ovals, so you must manage deviations immediately or you will be spinning or riding the mistake all the way into the wall at the exit of the turn.

So +1 for do both road and oval.