F1 is in a different realm. The level of competition is freakishly high. If you’ve ever met anyone in F1 even those who are mid-field are just different. To even be there and employed you’re levels above.
I have my issues with F1 but there’s really no way I’d rather own an IndyCar team winning races then even a backmarker F1 team given the chance. (F1 is a closed shop though now which really isn’t a good thing).
Just saw the f2 got the new chassis for 2024. Looks like the super formula or formula nippon. Wing looks gorgeous to me.
That F2 car looks pretty rad!
We could maybe irace this soon.
Yeah I love it, looks awesome.
Great lap by Sainz! Not often he gets the better of Leclerc on raw pace, even less so to top Verstappen.
Always beautiful to see Ferrari up front at Monza.
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It was a good lap but he had a tow, while Leclerc did not. The tow is worth quite a lot in Monza, so with a tow Leclerc would have probably been ahead.
I don’t see him beating Verstappen and Leclerc in the race though.
Hell of race with LeClerc nearly taking Scuderia out
Great racing throughout the field. Carlos defended like a lion as long as he could but even if the Ferrari is similar in raw pace to the RB, it destroys its tires and the Red Bull just keeps going.
If Sainz hadn’t burned his tyres off completely he could have had a chance of beating Perez. He would have lost position to his teammate as well if the race wasn’t 2 laps shorter. Also worth noting that Perez was actually really fast today, he was matching Max’s pace in clean air and would have been a lot closer if he didn’t get stuck behind Russell. In all fairness, even DRS overtakes seemed very hard today.
At least raw pace seems similar between Ferrari and RB, the problem seems to be with the tyres. That’s a step forward, Las Vegas should be good for Ferrari with how good their top speed was.
Ferrari took new engines and probably bumped up the engine mode for this weekend. So I still think in raw pace RBR has a fair edge,
Monza is an extreme low downforce track. DRS works by canceling out a high degree of downforce (thus drag) from the rear wing so the effect of DRS on such a track is minimal since there isn’t much rear wing to cancel.
Agreed! Once Max got around Carlos it only took a few laps to be seconds ahead. Nearly the same for Checo getting around Carlos. In clean air the RB is still a rocket.
My question is what has RB figured out that the other teams have not to have such pace and not destroy their tires? It has to have something to do with the floor aero. Everything else is adjustable.
In terms of tyres generally that tends to suggest just more efficient downforce. If you can generate downforce and not get too much of a drag penalty, you’re not going to slide through the corners and then be punished down the straights. Obviously it’s way more complicated than that and I am sure there’s so many variables at play, but as a rule of thumb nothing really beats downforce in keeps tyres relatively stable.
The aerodynamics genius that is Adrian Newey has somehow managed to design their aero such that they can increase their downforce but produce proportionately less drag than other teams produce for the same level of downforce change. That coupled with the power unit, engine freeze and arguably the most talented driver in the current line up makes them truly invincible.
I totally get that. I am just thinking about what fundamental design base did they figure out from the start. Obviously updates for the other teams has got them closer, but still not really within striking distance. Checo proved that yesterday. Ferrari was the first to match them in terms of power, but lacked durability of mechanicals and tires. AM was the next to jump forward with mechanical upgrades. Merc brought back their sidepods and changed the floor to fix some of the porussing. Most recently McLaren and Williams are racing at the front half of the pack. I have not heard of RB bringing any major updates. I would love to learn more about what the teams are changing, but I am sure that is closely guarded to avoid copy cats and losing their advantage.
I think Ferrari still aren’t close. They were running a super flat rear wing for straight line speed. That’s the thing, RB were able to run more rear wing but still have less drag than Ferrari. It’s genius aero but also their engine is super strong.
Before the last engine freeze, Merc developed their turbo with the intake and power wheels at different sides of the engine, allowing the inlet to pull much colder air because it was remote from the turbine which gets super hot from exhaust gases. Nobody was able to copy the design for years because of the engine freeze, and they dominated.
The current freeze is in place until end of ‘25, unless FIA implement the engine freeze waive off for teams with x% less power than the championship leaders I don’t see anybody challenging RBR until the next shake up in 26. Then it will be Audi with a diesel 
Newey has a kind of ‘floating’ role at RedBull by the sounds of it. When it comes to core design I think we should recognise it’s not a one man show at RedBull. They have a ton of talented designers. What role Newey plays within that is somewhat a mystery. I think fluid is the term.
It obviously works for them and I guess means you might get a little less group think. but it’s all conjecture. With the RB19 it is reported he spent most of his time on the suspension. Obviously aero and suspension are all inter-related, but it’s interesting to note.
This kinda domination isn’t unique as such, it’s just that we now have crazy reliability and an alien in the drivers seat.
