Im Starting to get slower, not Faster

Recently, ive been getting a lot slower. Let me give you some background:

For about 2 years now, ive been one of the fastest drivers at my local track. I’ve got the 3rd fastest time with the karts that have been here for 3 years. In the past month, ive gotten a lot slower in general, everyone has caught up to me, and i dont feel like im the fastest anymore.

Im use to being a front runner since i started karting, i know the track so well, there is nothing else to learn. Ive put on 1 or 2 kgs in the last year so i doubt its weight. Anyone got any suggestions or thoughts? Im finding it really hard mentally too, i dont like being upper mid pack.

Rental kart or 2 stroke ?

Rental and no, its not the same kart. My pace is off in general i think

So they changed the karts ? From what to what ?

To be fair, it might have a bit of differences, but you shouldn’t lose pace that much, unless you are not experienced

This attitude surely isn’t helping (and if that sounds abrasive, it isn’t intended to be), so, take a step back, and re-assess what’s going on with as broad of a view as you can. When we get frustrated, we tend to start over-driving which simply leads to more frustration and slower times.

You have to be very careful comparing yourself to others. When I run rentals, I can expect to get top 3 of the week very reliably. When I race 206SR, I am top 30-ish out of 40+. I am just as fast or slow of a driver, but, compared to different populations, it looks different. It could simply be that everyone has gotten faster with time (which is to be expected), and this has put your on your heels which is not a good place to be.

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As @dodo said, not a good mindset.

You say that you are used to be a front runner since you started. This is not a good sign, it might be because the level at your local track was fairly low. Now people caught up to you and you are frustrated.
You thinking that you don’t have anything to learn anymore on the track is a big mistake.

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No i mean like im not driving the same number kart often. A lot of people on Reddit questioned the karts themselves but they seem fine to me.

I do quite a lot of races around the country and often across the border, was winning at my local and getting podiums most of the time when i went to other tracks. I am starting to think that im overtrying. Seeing people slowly gain time on me makes me push harder, and i’ve been told that isn’t necessarily faster.

Atitude needs to change for sure. Any tips on how to move forward from here?

With rentals it is mainly down to kart once everyone is able to wring what it’s got out of it, imho.

Did tire change? Your pace relative to last season is slower but the others are faster?

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The other drivers have gotten faster and i havent. No recent tyre change or anything except brakes. New brakes and im not used to them. They lock up very easily. This slower thing started about a month ago.

It sounds like the others are just getting faster as a natural part of racing, which is especially common in rentals where there is no equipment development. You may be at the limit of performance that the karts can get, they may have figured something out that you still haven’t yet.

This is just something you need to get used to. To quote Star Wars Episode I, “There’s always a bigger fish.” There will always, and I mean always, be a better driver out there. They may show up to your rental competition, you may choose to buy a competition kart and find you’re not even close to the front at a club level, a club champion driver will find better drivers at a regional level. Hell, the best driver in US single speed racing had his ass handed to him by a European that just showed up one year, and then that guy hasn’t even won a World Championship yet.

You can either feel bad about yourself for not being top dog at the rental track anymore, or you can work to find the pace to feel you need, or learn the racecraft to out battle the other drivers, and actually step up when they’re challenging you. That may be a little dramatic for rental karting but it’s the same mental battle every driver deals with

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I would just love to see what a really fast driver looks like, because i don’t feel like i’ve seen anyone that was just another level. I remember racing a guy who i talked too, he was my age, and at youth level “Junior” he got 2nd place in the FIA euro championships back in the day. Then he finished karting due to his funds. I raced with him in a lot of rental series, hes been doing rentals for a good 2-3 years now. And im honestly on pace with him, and it makes me feel like im just amazingly fast, its people like him that kinda make me think im that much better than everyone else, i’ve been karting for 2 yrs and anyone i talk to says im amazing for the amount of time i’ve been driving, but reality is starting to strike now.

Thanks a lot for your opinion, i just have to keep my head down and not be so cocky.

Where are you doing worse relative to the others and yourself? Are you losing time on track or is it in race decisions?

Your driving doesn’t just get worse. I mean yeah, you could have a crisis of confidence and shoot your self in the foot repeatedly but you’d know it.

If you are driving the same as before, laptimes, etc, you didn’t get worse. Can you identify where you get pulled on?

i think i’ve read all the responses, and although you said you haven’t really gained weight, the weight of others may be impacting your results, and i don’t think you’ve mentioned whether you’re racing based on weight, or how it’s set up.

i do know, for me, i used to destroy my son at the indoor track, even though he weighed about 50 or 60 pounds less than me. he’s gotten better, and will beat me, maybe about 30% of the time, and still weighs about 45 pounds less than me. eventually, he’s going to crush me, all other things equal.

if you are used to smashing a bunch of dudes skinnier than you, they will most likely catch up and beat you, even if you’re still a badass.

Time purely, i’ve always been very good with in race decisions.

I’ve gone up probably 1 or 2 kgs this year, i dont know about weight but could be

I’ll say this as nicely as I can. Your attitude is holding you back. If you believe you have nothing left to learn, you will not improve.

I would suggest finding a track that does arrive and drive for real racing karts and race a weekend against serious racers who own their karts. There will be minimum weight requirements so the playing field will be level. You will likely find that there are in fact some things left to learn.

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Looking at your answers, and given your experience, I don’t think you are as good as you think :upside_down_face:

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The path forward is inward.
It appears that you have some natural aptitude for karting, which can be a blessing and a curse; a blessing when you get fast very quickly, and a curse when the aptitude takes you as far as it can and you don’t realize you must put in the work to keep moving up the learning spiral.

Just guessing, but it sounds like the hit you have taken to your ego, has caused you (your conscious self) to start interfering with the subconscious driving process you have established over the past two seasons. Think of it this way, driving and cornering theory, line, weight transfer, etc. is a well known process (aka a ‘white box’ process). But the actual driving, the perception of what’s happening, the coordination of muscles, etc. is a mystery. Ask a fast guy or coach what to do, they can probably tell you some things, ask why, they can probably explain it, but ask them how they do it (how they actually ‘drive’) and I doubt you will get a clear answer because the act of driving is not a knowable step-by-step ‘procedure’, it’s a mysterious emergent process (a black box process).

We all start out ‘consciously’ driving around the track (usually by connecting the dots - brake, turn-in, apex)… and we are SLOW. If you have a strong aptitude for driving you subconsciously ‘understand’ what your experience is teaching you about energy movement, tire load, traction, etc. and your driving moves into the subconscious realm where it continuously self optimizes with further experience (hopefully). If you get pissed because you don’t like the results that are being produced, and ‘consciously’ step in to ‘fix’ things, you will screw everything up. You can ‘influence’ the black box process, but you must do so by impoving the breadth and depth of you sensitivity to the results you driving is producing (the perceptual results not the lap time or finishing position results).

Try this the next time you brush your teeth. This activity is likely highly optimized (try brushing with your other hand if you want to see how well optimized it really is). Anyway, when you are brushing, don’t interfere, don’t control the brushing, just observer in great detail. How are you holding the brush (how many fingers, where are they, is the end of the brush pressing against your palm, etc. See if there is a particular ‘pattern’ you brush to (upper-left first, then upper-right, or whatever) if so, why do you think you settled on that pattern? Is there a particular movement you use (side-to-side, up and down, circular - if so, what direction), and why… did the dentist tell you to do it that way, or did you just self-optimize to that method. How much pressure are you using, how do you transition from upper teeth to lower teeth, how do you do the transition from left to right (does you head move… how much). On and on, there is always more to observe and more to learn.

Next time you hit the track, do so with the same mindset; dissect your driving (but remember OBSERVE, do not try to change/control it). If you do this, you will likely find some areas of your driving that you’ll want to learn more about, and the more you learn, the more opportunity you give your black box process to self optimize.

Good Luck!

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