Stiff brakes with minimal travel - what's the solution?

Good morning KP, it’s been a while!

I recently moved to the US, but since my kart is still in shipment process from Europe, I rented a race kart from a track local. It’s a Birel S15 2022 chassis with a Rotax Max engine. The kart drives very well, but there is one small problem: the brakes have a very weird feeling. There is minimal travel in the brake pedal and it feels on/off, with no in between feel. I cannot brake at the normal braking points (or trail brake entirely, for that matter) on the track or the brakes lock up. I bled the brakes, checked for wear on the pads and rotor, everything seems fine so it’s not a mechanical issue.

I drove another kart on the track, a 2023 LN chassis (with the same engine). The brakes felt fine, I was able to brake comfortably at the normal braking points and even later and the kart felt much more comfortable.

Is there any adjustment I can make to fix this issue? I’ll be renting the kart again next week and I want to put in some good laps.

Some brakes are more “light swich”, but you could try moving the actuator rod to a different (lower on master) actuator hole, or to a lower hole on brake pedal. The human body is wired to respond to pressure impulse, not distance moved, so you may find that a short pedal but trained pressure sensitivity on foot is more consistent in the long term… I like a super-firm pedal with little movement. This can be tricky on a bumpy track, however.

ADDENDUM: if the master cylinder isn’t the original one, it could be pushing more fluid than the original…would be an odd case, but it’s possible.

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I usually prefer a firm pedal as well, but with a bit more travel so I can brake more progressively. With this pedal if I apply the pressure I usually apply on my own kart for braking into a slow hairpin, I’ll spin out.

It’s probably a matter of getting used to it, at the end of the day I was “only” 1.5s of what is considered a good laptime with two 10-15min sessions. Hopefully I’ll find more time in the next session.

Brakes aren’t like a throttle and shouldn’t be modulated by travel. Brakes are modulated by pressure. There should be a tiny bit of travel as the pads move towards the rotor and then everything should have very little movement. The rest is pressure modulation

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Of course it won’t have as much travel as the throttle, but compared to the OTK brakes it has almost half the travel and it makes a huge difference. I might try moving the cable to the lowest hole on the pedal to increase the travel slightly and see if it makes a difference in feel.

A different compound of pad can help too. A harder pad will allow more pressure before lock-up where a softer pad tends to grab more readily.

I find Birel and Parolin brakes to be really sensitive and difficult for a few laps, but eventually you build the muscle memory and you naturally adapt. OTK and KR systems have a stiffer pedal and allow more modulation before lock-up in my experience.

Try moving the rod down on the master cylinder actuation arm. That was always my default. I found the default Compart/Birel took too little force and was hard to modulate.

You are probably on a larger disc as well from what you are use to on OTK. So the Birel can apply more torque meaning more stopping power.

Otherwise if you want more throw/movement you need to move up on the brake pedal.

Lastly you can give yourself a bit of a dead spot and more travel by checking the rod between the pedal and master cylinder. I hate any sort of dead spot so I would have the rod slightly too short where I would need to actuate the master cylinder a very small amount to get the bolt through it. You’d want to do the opposite and lengthen the rod as much as you can.

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