i think all the barriers are permanent and i dont remember any track limit changes. altho they recently added indoor style walls in a few corners.
you ask and you will receive
https://youtu.be/7jFn90ba5PY
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@tjkoyen @Aaron_Hachmeister_13 @XanderClements Any of you guys happen to know where the rule originated that the cadet classes aren’t allowed to get out of their karts?
I don’t know where it originated, but I think it’s a safety thing so that the kids don’t have to worry about getting hit by a kart while trying to get out and untangle themselves, plus I don’t think any of the kids are strong enough to move their karts enough anyways. I would imagine the cadet drivers won’t have the situational awareness in a crash to wait until all the other karts have passed to get out and start moving around.
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That’s what common sense tells me, but it just seems odd to me that I’m obligated to not assist them while also not allowing them to get out to do it themselves. Maybe I’m too soft 
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I saw a guy yelling at a corner worker to try to get a kid back on track that was beached on turn 8. In micro if they can assist, I think they should. As a parent, you know the little boogers are essentially helpless. You know they aren’t going to win anything after that, but you still want them to get more seat time.
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I thought the corner workers could assist drivers in cadet, but not full-size classes. That would make sense to me at least.
As Aaron said it’s for safety. Don’t want the kiddos accidentally wandering into traffic or putting their kart into a bad situation without realizing it.
I think the issue with corner workers trying to assist cadets to get rolling again is you always had parents screaming and complaining that a corner worker helped another kid first and their kid had to sit longer.
One thing that I suggested, and we are trialing this year in my local club is a penalty point system, similar to what was introduced to help “correct” Marc Marquez’s aggressive driving in Moto2/MotoGP but adapted to be more kart centric.
https://motomatters.com/analysis/2012/12/20/analyzing_motogp_s_new_rules_the_marquez.html
“Hence the penalty points system introduced by the Grand Prix Commission last week. Under the new system, Race Direction can punish any rider deemed to have breached the rules, or shown unsafe or unsportsmanlike conduct, by awarding them a number of penalty points (between 1 and 10) depending on the seriousness of the offense. If the rider has collected 4 or more points, they will have to start one race (the next race) from the back of the grid. If the rider collects more points, and their total reaches 7 points or more, they will have to start one race from pit lane. Once the rider’s total reaches 10 points, they will be automatically disqualified from the next race. At this point, the rider’s penalty points total is reset to 0, and he starts afresh.”
For a single race driver, it wont add up, but for someone who is doing a full championship it will have a big impact.
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I like the idea of penalty points.
its a good idea but it’s practically impossible to make it happen.
I don’t think it’s impossible. It would be the same as applying penalties now, only you would carry the risk of accumulating penalties over the course of a weekend or season. It might not do much in the first event but it would start to make an impact after the first races.
So for example if a driver gets a 2 position penalty for avoidable contact, they take that penalty but also that goes on their “license” for 2 points. Accrue too many of those and you’re going to start in the back. Just like F1 does.
The issue is still calling all the penalties that happen which requires more eagle-eyed officiating, but with penalty points, you will start to curb the problem drivers.
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I remember talking with Janowski at Pittsburgh last year, and he was saying that even the best corner marshalls are only about 70% accurate at best, which is why he introduced the camera system to SKUSA. Basically, instead of the marshalls calling a penalty, they just radio in the incident and the video review team watches the incident to decide penalties. Even if we think we see everything in a crash, our brain only catches parts and fills in the rest using context clues.
If we want to introduce penalty points, we need to have a system that makes sure we can catch as much as possible and assigns fault properly.
The other issue I see is differences between series. USPKS is only a 4 round series. The penalty points system would have to be pretty strict to see much of an effect over a season with 4 races, compared to the 20-whatever rounds F1 has to accrue the 12 points for a race ban. Ideally, and I’ve thought this for a while, USPKS and SKUSA would have to merge/collaborate, transferring penalty points between series for a total of 9 seasonal weekends (USPKS regular season, Pro Tour, and Winter Series), plus the Grand Nationals and SuperNats.
You get 5-7 sessions per day though, you could easily accrue enough penalty points to start in the back in one day if you were a problem driver.
And you could weight the penalty points accordingly to the schedule.
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True, counting by individual sessions there’s more than enough opportunities to get yelled at. Including practices, Thursday is usually 5 sessions, Friday is 5 sessions, Saturday and Sunday are 3-4 sessions each. Adding those together over a season is 64 opportunities to accrue points, more than enough.
Also, i was thinking last night, it may be better to have all these threads as one large “2022 National Karting Tour” thread. Just for the sake of being able to go back and find discussions from across the season, and finding links to all the older events and whatnot from Kart Chaser without having to jump threads.
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Ha, if it was during qualifying, it was probably me. It was their first national event, they didn’t know.
In years past, that’s what I was told was the case, but I don’t see anything explicitly not allowing. AFAIK, it’s never been an issue at Rok with assisting the kids, it’s just odd to me that Rok/SKUSA would allow it, but not USPKS. I’m all for some more consistency between series (I added the start box for that reason).
I don’t know how I feel about trying something completely new like that at a national series without trialing it in a lower series. I might trial it at GoPro or AMR if the racing gets haywire.
30% 
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I thought 30% was the average, and his best worker was 60% or 70%.
I thought USPKS did allow it, we had our Micro get helped out of a wreck once or twice and he was allowed to keep going until he got lapped.
I was told otherwise and I may have sealed my fate for this year by not overruling it last weekend 
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I would see what you can do at the next weekend, there will probably still be some leeway for it.
I have no real preference either way, I don’t see a real reason to not allow it though.