Anybody have experience with Billy Musgrave’s chassis, Factory Kart? Curious how it drives, positives, negatives, etc…
This is what I’m referring to: https://www.factorykarts.com/
Your help is appreciated, as always!
I have some experience with the shifter frame. Saturday I did a test day at NCMP in the HMG Kart (Harden Motorsports Group), which is made by Musgrave and based on the Factory Kart design. Ran about 60 laps on the day and really liked it.
Build quality seems great, and some of the features are nice improvements over the standard Italian designs.
I’ll be racing that kart in KZ Masters at the upcoming Stars race 5/21-5/22, and will be able to pass along more feedback at that time. Ran a 1.08.1 on the Stars layout, and last year’s pole time in Masters was 1.08.9…so the chassis seems fast 
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Here is my Opinion:
I’ve been driving mine every weekend since I bought it.
The kart drives very well for me and doesn’t have any flaws I could find.
Top-notch quality builds, almost everything is CNC made and fits perfectly.
The Musgrave support has been more than I could hope for.
If I had to do it again, I would not consider any other kart. Love it!
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Yep. I’ve decided to get one with a KA motor. I’m amped. Working with Billy has been great so far! Will post some pics when I get it!
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Coming back to my earlier reply on this topic, I was able to use an HMG Kart (made my Factory Kart) at the first round of the Stars Championship Series at NCMP. We had a stacked field with nearly 20 drivers in KZ Masters, and 27 in overall Masters Shifter (includes Rok).
My only complaint is that I had to readjust the shift lever due to the rose joints being slightly out of alignment and putting it in a bind. Quick and easy fix. Really enjoyed the chassis, and was able to bring home a commanding win in the main on Sunday.
The kart is tremendously easy to drive, meaning it is responsive and goes where you want it to, but also physically much easier to drive than other karts I’ve been on recently. We started out the weekend on the setup that I tested a few weeks ago, and made a few changes throughout the weekend, basically converging on a box stock setup for the final on Sunday. Only time we went the wrong direction on setup was trying a Hard axle for the pre-final. Here was my setup from the event for anyone who is curious:
- AMV Tiger wheels
- Medium axle, chassis down, 55” rear
- Standard wheelbase
- 90mm magnesium rear hubs
- Greyhound 2020 seat with 2 struts per side
- Middle front ride height
- Neutral caster, zero camber, 2mm toe out per side
- 75mm front hubs, 4.5 lines wide
- Middle Ackerman on steering column
- Bottom Ackerman in spindle
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What tires do they run in that class/series? I can’t recall.
MG tires, so Yellows for shifter classes, and Reds for all other classes. Shifters get two sets of tires for the weekend, so we run qualifying- heat 1- heat 2- prefinal on one set, and final on another set.
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Awesome to hear.
I’m getting their single-speed chassis with a KA motor on it, so I’ll for sure post some details here when I receive it along with a bunch of pictures. Cant wait!
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Congrats! 8s is indeed a commanding lead.
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Seems like a pretty standard set-up for any chassis in most classes. Except for the secret sauce that is…AMV Tiger wheels 
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Nope.
The post I deleted is inappropriate and similar ones will be deleted. We do not allow folks to besmirch character and accusations without contextual discussion are not tolerated.
If someone has issues with something, we are happy to have you share the experience and perhaps achieve some sort of resolution/understanding via community discussion.
Attempting to weaponize the forum = banned.
@KartingIsLife you decide wether we delete user, please
Mr. Callan, I understand. This company has done me wrong and I do not want more people to be put in the same situation. How can I express what this company has done to me still under your rules? I have a paid receipt with details of a retail full rebuilt CR125 engine that took just at a year, nothing and I mean nothing was correct including scale on the inside, broken bolts, leaking head and a pinched crank to name a few things and this engine was never even started, my frame builder just put coolant in it. I have emails , text messages along with photos. Billy Musgrave himself told me he would refund me “even if it had to come out of his own pocket”. When I was handed off to the new manager Drew Bischof, he said that the dad, Willy Musgrave was no longer with the company and that the new owner (I will have his information next week before I file suit), said that they purchased only the asset’s, not the liabilities of the company which is just another excuse as this is not possible when you are still using their name / trademark/ company. I did not try to be disrespectful to your forum. Please let me know how I can share my experiences with others on your site in a respectable, permissible and contextual form. Thank you, Richard Rubenstein.
Richard,
Thanks for taking the time and articulating more clearly.
My concern isn’t about using the forum to communicate negative feedback about businesses in our sport. If someone has an issue and wishes to communicate a bad experience, given the tiny nature of the global karting community, our forum is indeed a powerful megaphone.
James, Tj and the rest of us strive to keep this a place that is welcoming and helpful to all racers, from all walks of life, etc. We jealously protect that as somehow, we have managed to keep this a positive and civil place. No politics, religion, etc. This is why ask for people to use their real names.
It’s a tiny world we participate in, and beefs, though rare, can be discussed here. What I found problematic with the post I deleted was the initial assertion about the character of the individuals involved without context as to why you are so cheesed off at them, and the one sided nature of that single post.
I too had a shit experience with another well known industry insider that compelled me to bring my beef public, so I know what you are feeling. I also recognize that in my case, part of the reason I had a negative experience I that I reacted badly, and probably it was easier to hide from crazy Dom than work out the issue.
I am not refuting anything you said or devaluing your complaint. I just want future versions of using the forum in this manner to be carefully considered in how it’s done. These sort of complaints need to be made with much more information being offered about the nature of what went wrong and also must consider the other guys position. Then, we as a community can and will listen and absorb and even, perhaps, be able to corroborate (or refute) your experience.
I do see that you have another post that puts meat on the bone, # Factory Karts Ripped Me Off!
and that’s much more in the spirit of what we are about. I just didn’t like this one post, on its own, with zero context, being not only accusatory but also directly accusing someone of being bad peoples. That may be the case, but if that’s what we are gonna say, we gotta lead the horse (KP community) to the water in a more circumspect and thoughtful manner.
Maybe another way to approach this was “Am I being screwed? Here’s an experience I have had and I wanted to share it because it flies in the face of the reputation of the provider and I expected different… here’s what happened, what’s your take?.. Is it me or has anyone else experienced similar, and if so, were you able to get it resolved… yadda, yadda etc.” The less nuclear option still gets your point across, and engages us in useful conversation, which, either way, would lead to some insights.
I hope you understand that I’m not reacting because they are a well known racing family with lots of industry connections, I don’t know them at all and likely won’t ever cross paths, so it’s not that at all. It’s about keeping the forums a place where we present our best selves when it’s hard to do so.
Welcome to the community and hope you get it resolved and that others here who know more can be helpful. I also hope unlike me, you don’t end up just giving the damn kart to some kid out of sheer frustration so at least someone can find joy in something that is cursed to you.
Oh and if you are being screwed, this clip comes to mind in terms of how to maximize your messaging efforts:
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