Why cant some Kart company Bring These Barn Burners Back ?? With Twin L206 or Tillys or Twin KA100 ?? Would Stir up some great racing !!! These were the days of real racing !!!
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Lawyers and helicopter parents have neutered most sports and fun these days…
No bodywork C Open couldn’t exist today… but if it did, the drivers would be both better and cleaner that what we see now.
Riley Will has created a dual BRC150rr kart that is probably as close as you’ll come to this level of craziness.
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Aside from safety, I think a lot of it is just down to how people’s skills and available time has changed. You can still run these at vintage and road racing events.
Rock Island is particularly cool because the sound reverberates off the buildings.
Twin 206 was floated by Margay at one point but never took off. There wasn’t much interest at all.
Twin KA makes a lot of sense. Dual modern reeds would be a blast. Sign me up for a test drive.
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I really thought it would have been cool to see that take off. I give Margay credit. The Ignite 100 class seems to be taking off better than the dual 206 class did. They are doing their best to give that “next step” in speed.
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Luckily we still have some wild karts out there, shame there are not more:
UAS in the dirt world runs some crazy stuff too.
@Alan_Dove has been working hard on promoting superkarts.
Welte Racing (Racing Psychosis on YT) make reproduction chassis. You can build one similar yourself. I don’t like reproduction chassis in terms of historic racing, but in terms of welding metal together, people are doing it.
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Outta curiousity… what’s the deal with twins? 2x the power but without a single giant powerplant?
And how do you sync them?
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If you mean power impulses. With clutches you can’t really as the engagement will always change. It’s not messages anyway.
On the topic of dual four strokes… a twin Gx160 class was highly popular in the UK and Ireland for quite some time. But that was before something like the 206 came along.
With direct drive you can choose firing order, but if it’s cluches or like the twin-KZ you kinda just don’t.
I love it but. Why twins ? And not a bigger power one power plant ?
Because of better weight balance ??
We have some Dual four cycles Road Racing out here (World Formulas). Just a bit faster than a single X-30. Frame is a converted Shifter. Love to try a couple of TAGs on one.
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I’m all about doing things just because. This would fall right into that category. The one problem I do see, is the length of the kart with the engine(s) out back.
As a newer racer, it’s stressful enough for me to try to keep one engine running properly. I would never want to worry about two at once plus the additional drive linkage.
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Keeping both engines running correctly is one of the biggest drawbacks, that’s why we went with the World Formula engines - you can treat them like an appliance. There is still the additional complication of the double drive train but that can be managed with some care and experience. One of the biggest things keeping racers from doing Duals is seeing some of the very nice examples that people have done. Looking at a beautiful open class vintage kart is wonderful but a single one of those engines is a tricky thing to get running “right”, two of them is often more than most want to deal with. Even with the four cycle engines we have a hard time telling which engine quit running. All you know is that it’s slow. But when you get it right…
The guy who mentored me in this sport ran a C-Open kart and was always telling me how bodywork has made drivers sloppy. I don’t even want to run my PRD with bodywork and I am only doing so because of the regulations, but yeah, I wish we had more racing like this.
One thing I keep thinking about is why no one with crazy money has built a quad engine BRC style 500cc platform using two of the 250CC twin engines already on the market. I really think modern karts could be faster than some F3 / F2 cars if someone built something with side pod tunnels or fan-style downforce like the Can-Am Chapparal days.
Karting is great, but it does seem to lack the “what if” innovation that is seen in other forms of motorsport like Hillclimb or Time Attack.
Karting Time Attack series anyone?
Does the complexity come from running on alcohol or synching the engines somehow? I have heard that with the alky engines they are very sensitive to mixture adjustments and that you have to GO as soon as you start them up.
Binging. These karts are incredible!!! I have so many questions haha.
Now this what I was talking about twin HF Predators !!! BRING THEM BACK UPDATED !!!
